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		<title>Comment on Lab Manuals by Amina Phenol</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2013/05/16/lab-manuals/#comment-47802</link>
		<dc:creator>Amina Phenol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 15:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kubiak lab manual:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kubiak lab manual:<br />
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		<title>Comment on Lab Manuals by bad wolf</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2013/05/16/lab-manuals/#comment-47754</link>
		<dc:creator>bad wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 11:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I appreciate the profs spelling out time expectations, although they could just say that that is how much effort a typical person needs to finish in a timely manner.  (I don&#039;t think undergraduates realize how easily you adapt to what sounds initially like a terribly long workweek.)  They seem to vary a bit in whether 60h includes literature reading or not--i would hope &#039;includes.&#039;

Those manuals also remind me of the &#039;house rules&#039; i had at a boarding house--every rule or warning was basically the result of someone screwing up in the past and their infractions being written into the list.  So when a professor complains about standing around drinking coffee, i assume there was some grad student in his or her past that really abused the privilege.

Peter Wipf&#039;s page shows his strong use of LIMS.  Paul, have you given any thought to instituting any Lab Management software?  I always thought it would be easier to institute it when starting up a lab than later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the profs spelling out time expectations, although they could just say that that is how much effort a typical person needs to finish in a timely manner.  (I don&#8217;t think undergraduates realize how easily you adapt to what sounds initially like a terribly long workweek.)  They seem to vary a bit in whether 60h includes literature reading or not&#8211;i would hope &#8216;includes.&#8217;</p>
<p>Those manuals also remind me of the &#8216;house rules&#8217; i had at a boarding house&#8211;every rule or warning was basically the result of someone screwing up in the past and their infractions being written into the list.  So when a professor complains about standing around drinking coffee, i assume there was some grad student in his or her past that really abused the privilege.</p>
<p>Peter Wipf&#8217;s page shows his strong use of LIMS.  Paul, have you given any thought to instituting any Lab Management software?  I always thought it would be easier to institute it when starting up a lab than later.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lab Manuals by Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2013/05/16/lab-manuals/#comment-47744</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 10:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a great addition, Anna. Thanks.

I always thought that profs were nervous about explicitly stating work hours (e.g., 60 hrs/week) because of possible violations of labor laws, but on closer inspection, I don&#039;t think they need to worry. The Fair Labor Standards Act limits work weeks to 40 hrs + 4 hrs overtime (1.5x time) and Congress has set the minimum wage at $7.25. Even at 60 hrs/wk, students and postdocs surpass minimum wage. While the number of hours demanded by many professors exceeds the maximum in the FLSA, there is an exemption for workers who are not working purely for their employer---i.e., the nature of research as &quot;training&quot; means that students and postdocs glean benefits beyond their wages, which makes these employees exempt from the 40-hr rule and they need not be paid overtime. The situation is analogous to medical residents, who are often explicitly required to work 80-hr weeks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great addition, Anna. Thanks.</p>
<p>I always thought that profs were nervous about explicitly stating work hours (e.g., 60 hrs/week) because of possible violations of labor laws, but on closer inspection, I don&#8217;t think they need to worry. The Fair Labor Standards Act limits work weeks to 40 hrs + 4 hrs overtime (1.5x time) and Congress has set the minimum wage at $7.25. Even at 60 hrs/wk, students and postdocs surpass minimum wage. While the number of hours demanded by many professors exceeds the maximum in the FLSA, there is an exemption for workers who are not working purely for their employer&#8212;i.e., the nature of research as &#8220;training&#8221; means that students and postdocs glean benefits beyond their wages, which makes these employees exempt from the 40-hr rule and they need not be paid overtime. The situation is analogous to medical residents, who are often explicitly required to work 80-hr weeks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lab Manuals by Anna</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2013/05/16/lab-manuals/#comment-47652</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 00:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m most interested in the lab manuals that spell out expectations for group culture, beyond just listing safety and technical information. Several of the examples above do this, though when the idea is presented to some PIs, they shudder at the thought of making expectations explicit (maybe because they could be held accountable for being unreasonable?)

Another old one that I don&#039;t see linked here yet: http://www.chemistry-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Gassman-and-Meyers.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m most interested in the lab manuals that spell out expectations for group culture, beyond just listing safety and technical information. Several of the examples above do this, though when the idea is presented to some PIs, they shudder at the thought of making expectations explicit (maybe because they could be held accountable for being unreasonable?)</p>
<p>Another old one that I don&#8217;t see linked here yet: <a href="http://www.chemistry-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Gassman-and-Meyers.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.chemistry-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Gassman-and-Meyers.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Today&#8217;s Unit Conversion Error: Poop in Pools by The Iron Chemist</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2013/05/17/todays-unit-conversion-error-poop-in-pools/#comment-47618</link>
		<dc:creator>The Iron Chemist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 21:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;ve got that much poop smeared on your bottom, you should learn how to wipe better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve got that much poop smeared on your bottom, you should learn how to wipe better.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Today&#8217;s Unit Conversion Error: Poop in Pools by Hap</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2013/05/17/todays-unit-conversion-error-poop-in-pools/#comment-47613</link>
		<dc:creator>Hap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 20:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) I would have figured that even overworked lifeguards would notice a couple of kilograms of poop in the pool.

2) If kids are carrying that much poop, they&#039;re going to be very unpopular just about anywhere unless they&#039;re all two and can get away with it. Mommy and Daddy probably aren&#039;t filled with joy if their kids are carrying that around, either, unless they&#039;re the source of the hygiene, um, training. In that case, Mommy and/or Daddy&#039;s coworkers must be happy, too.

Is someone trying to drum up funding or avoid sequester-related cuts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) I would have figured that even overworked lifeguards would notice a couple of kilograms of poop in the pool.</p>
<p>2) If kids are carrying that much poop, they&#8217;re going to be very unpopular just about anywhere unless they&#8217;re all two and can get away with it. Mommy and Daddy probably aren&#8217;t filled with joy if their kids are carrying that around, either, unless they&#8217;re the source of the hygiene, um, training. In that case, Mommy and/or Daddy&#8217;s coworkers must be happy, too.</p>
<p>Is someone trying to drum up funding or avoid sequester-related cuts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Today&#8217;s Unit Conversion Error: Poop in Pools by Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2013/05/17/todays-unit-conversion-error-poop-in-pools/#comment-47604</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Anonymous: I completely agree. To me, 140 mg of poop on the average person seems wrong. I&#039;d love to know how they arrived at this value. They should also report a standard deviation.

And, of course, the 10 g estimate/hypothetical per bottom is absurd. Assuming the turds have the density of water, we&#039;re talking 10 mL of poo per bottom. That&#039;s like hiding three fun-size Tootsie Rolls. They&#039;d probably drop out of someone&#039;s shorts when they changed to get in the pool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous: I completely agree. To me, 140 mg of poop on the average person seems wrong. I&#8217;d love to know how they arrived at this value. They should also report a standard deviation.</p>
<p>And, of course, the 10 g estimate/hypothetical per bottom is absurd. Assuming the turds have the density of water, we&#8217;re talking 10 mL of poo per bottom. That&#8217;s like hiding three fun-size Tootsie Rolls. They&#8217;d probably drop out of someone&#8217;s shorts when they changed to get in the pool.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Today&#8217;s Unit Conversion Error: Poop in Pools by John Spevacek</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2013/05/17/todays-unit-conversion-error-poop-in-pools/#comment-47597</link>
		<dc:creator>John Spevacek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But we all know that pointing out errors in this case is a crappy job. Just saying. I think I&#039;ll skat-ole long now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But we all know that pointing out errors in this case is a crappy job. Just saying. I think I&#8217;ll skat-ole long now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Today&#8217;s Unit Conversion Error: Poop in Pools by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2013/05/17/todays-unit-conversion-error-poop-in-pools/#comment-47596</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 18:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a big difference between 0.14 g and 10 g of poo. We&#039;re in skidmark v. nugget territory. How much did these children have to drink the night before?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a big difference between 0.14 g and 10 g of poo. We&#8217;re in skidmark v. nugget territory. How much did these children have to drink the night before?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Today&#8217;s Unit Conversion Error: Poop in Pools by Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2013/05/17/todays-unit-conversion-error-poop-in-pools/#comment-47589</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 18:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s my doody to point out crappy mathematical errors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s my doody to point out crappy mathematical errors.</p>
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