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		<title>Comment on WWWTP? &#8211; Great White North Edition by Jordan</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2011/12/14/wwwtp-great-white-north-edition/#comment-19699</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 00:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late follow-up, but Ottawa U is now running the same graphic in billboard-type ads in the &lt;i&gt;Toronto&lt;/i&gt; subway system, in a station near the Univ of Toronto campus (Toronto is 300 miles from Ottawa). 

Running this kind of thing near a university campus is just asking for trouble.

I wonder if Mr. Jones might consider advertising Ottawa U&#039;s classics department by showing students poring over tomes of the classic &lt;i&gt;Lorem ipsum&lt;/i&gt;. Or better yet, Pig Latin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late follow-up, but Ottawa U is now running the same graphic in billboard-type ads in the <i>Toronto</i> subway system, in a station near the Univ of Toronto campus (Toronto is 300 miles from Ottawa). </p>
<p>Running this kind of thing near a university campus is just asking for trouble.</p>
<p>I wonder if Mr. Jones might consider advertising Ottawa U&#8217;s classics department by showing students poring over tomes of the classic <i>Lorem ipsum</i>. Or better yet, Pig Latin.</p>
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		<title>Comment on First Draft of a Pro-Chemistry Ad Campaign by BlueBaron</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2012/05/15/first-draft-of-a-pro-chemistry-ad-campaign/#comment-19586</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueBaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A simple slogan of &quot;I am chemistry&quot; might suffice. It would also be technically accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A simple slogan of &#8220;I am chemistry&#8221; might suffice. It would also be technically accurate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the ACS Must Do Regarding the Dinosaur Paper by ChiChem</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2012/04/25/what-the-acs-must-do-regarding-the-dinosaur-paper/#comment-19575</link>
		<dc:creator>ChiChem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 20:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to Stu&#039;s and Editor T&#039;s comments:

Please look up the definition of plagiarize in any good dictionary.  The web edition of Merriam-Webser states the following:

PLAGIARIZE
transitive verb: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one&#039;s own : use (another&#039;s production) without crediting the source.

Note that to plagiarize is to appropriate another&#039;s words or ideas and pass them off as your own.  Breslow is not guilty of this.  He is recycling his own ideas, in this case republishing his original ideas for a &quot;Perspective&quot;, a type of review.  He is guilty of laziness, certainly, and of recycling published material, but this is not plagiarism.  And &quot;self-plagiarism&quot;--by definition this is an oxymoron.  Publishers may wish to invent a new word for the reuse of one&#039;s own work; but, let&#039;s let plagiarism mean what it has always meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to Stu&#8217;s and Editor T&#8217;s comments:</p>
<p>Please look up the definition of plagiarize in any good dictionary.  The web edition of Merriam-Webser states the following:</p>
<p>PLAGIARIZE<br />
transitive verb: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one&#8217;s own : use (another&#8217;s production) without crediting the source.</p>
<p>Note that to plagiarize is to appropriate another&#8217;s words or ideas and pass them off as your own.  Breslow is not guilty of this.  He is recycling his own ideas, in this case republishing his original ideas for a &#8220;Perspective&#8221;, a type of review.  He is guilty of laziness, certainly, and of recycling published material, but this is not plagiarism.  And &#8220;self-plagiarism&#8221;&#8211;by definition this is an oxymoron.  Publishers may wish to invent a new word for the reuse of one&#8217;s own work; but, let&#8217;s let plagiarism mean what it has always meant.</p>
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		<title>Comment on First Draft of a Pro-Chemistry Ad Campaign by Chemjobber</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2012/05/15/first-draft-of-a-pro-chemistry-ad-campaign/#comment-19485</link>
		<dc:creator>Chemjobber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 04:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, eugene, for the explanation -- it&#039;s very edifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, eugene, for the explanation &#8212; it&#8217;s very edifying.</p>
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		<title>Comment on First Draft of a Pro-Chemistry Ad Campaign by James</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2012/05/15/first-draft-of-a-pro-chemistry-ad-campaign/#comment-19484</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 03:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea. If you really want to go for the jugular, however, you have to say, &quot;a chemical saved my child&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea. If you really want to go for the jugular, however, you have to say, &#8220;a chemical saved my child&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on First Draft of a Pro-Chemistry Ad Campaign by eugene</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2012/05/15/first-draft-of-a-pro-chemistry-ad-campaign/#comment-19437</link>
		<dc:creator>eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 18:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, just sent a letter to the old boss. We will see if I made a fool of myself or not when he/she answers.</description>
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		<title>Comment on First Draft of a Pro-Chemistry Ad Campaign by eugene</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2012/05/15/first-draft-of-a-pro-chemistry-ad-campaign/#comment-19434</link>
		<dc:creator>eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 17:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry sam, my sense of humor is not yet shot... I think.  

Chemjobber, I&#039;m the regular commenter and it&#039;s very hard to get farmers to adopt this technology. They are not willing to change something that works for a new technology, even though the old technology is bad. It&#039;s very frustrating... I know all about it actually. I hope it&#039;s been changing lately, but with pesticide spraying being business as usual as far as I can tell from just reading news sometimes, I doubt it.

Paul, I&#039;ll try to find an example for you, but I&#039;m not sure I can since it&#039;s been a long time that I&#039;ve left the field. Hell, maybe it&#039;s not even true and I just said it in the heat of the moment! I&#039;ll need to call the old boss. I know a big company bought some of his patents and I&#039;m not sure they went anywhere. This company also sells pesticides. But definitely, price cuts and lobbying of crop/wheat bords does happen when we try to compete. There was one time where we were wildly succesful. Stopping all pesticide use in a huge Middle Eastern country on this one crop and substituting it all by a few kilos of our stuff. Complete mating disruption and population collapse after one generation. But these are the kinds of customers who are known to reverse-engineer your blends and might collapse into a civil war or have trade sanctions declared on them. You know... not the ideal. North America has been frustrating. Plus, there is a lack of proper, good research into pheromones of the kind that big chemical company money can provide. Often the blends sold for an insect lack effect because they are missing a minute component that people didn&#039;t bother isolating because they were doing a hack job and never noticed it. You need proper biologists who know what they are doing to isolate these things and sometimes it takes a few thousand dead insects to extract a few nanograms of a very active component. Plus eventually in 30 years the insect is going to evolve to have 5% more of this minor stereoisomer of the main component to have the proper blend (for example).

It was also frustrating to go up against a government scientist who had an inferior product but was supported by his government while we were outsiders. Especially when someone embellishes their results and says their traps capture way more insects than they do. Grrr.... then when a commercial run doesn&#039;t work, they go back to the pesticide without giving us a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry sam, my sense of humor is not yet shot&#8230; I think.  </p>
<p>Chemjobber, I&#8217;m the regular commenter and it&#8217;s very hard to get farmers to adopt this technology. They are not willing to change something that works for a new technology, even though the old technology is bad. It&#8217;s very frustrating&#8230; I know all about it actually. I hope it&#8217;s been changing lately, but with pesticide spraying being business as usual as far as I can tell from just reading news sometimes, I doubt it.</p>
<p>Paul, I&#8217;ll try to find an example for you, but I&#8217;m not sure I can since it&#8217;s been a long time that I&#8217;ve left the field. Hell, maybe it&#8217;s not even true and I just said it in the heat of the moment! I&#8217;ll need to call the old boss. I know a big company bought some of his patents and I&#8217;m not sure they went anywhere. This company also sells pesticides. But definitely, price cuts and lobbying of crop/wheat bords does happen when we try to compete. There was one time where we were wildly succesful. Stopping all pesticide use in a huge Middle Eastern country on this one crop and substituting it all by a few kilos of our stuff. Complete mating disruption and population collapse after one generation. But these are the kinds of customers who are known to reverse-engineer your blends and might collapse into a civil war or have trade sanctions declared on them. You know&#8230; not the ideal. North America has been frustrating. Plus, there is a lack of proper, good research into pheromones of the kind that big chemical company money can provide. Often the blends sold for an insect lack effect because they are missing a minute component that people didn&#8217;t bother isolating because they were doing a hack job and never noticed it. You need proper biologists who know what they are doing to isolate these things and sometimes it takes a few thousand dead insects to extract a few nanograms of a very active component. Plus eventually in 30 years the insect is going to evolve to have 5% more of this minor stereoisomer of the main component to have the proper blend (for example).</p>
<p>It was also frustrating to go up against a government scientist who had an inferior product but was supported by his government while we were outsiders. Especially when someone embellishes their results and says their traps capture way more insects than they do. Grrr&#8230;. then when a commercial run doesn&#8217;t work, they go back to the pesticide without giving us a chance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on First Draft of a Pro-Chemistry Ad Campaign by MRW</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2012/05/15/first-draft-of-a-pro-chemistry-ad-campaign/#comment-19427</link>
		<dc:creator>MRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 16:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screwed up the text, but my shot is in the link I posted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screwed up the text, but my shot is in the link I posted</p>
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		<title>Comment on First Draft of a Pro-Chemistry Ad Campaign by MRW</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2012/05/15/first-draft-of-a-pro-chemistry-ad-campaign/#comment-19426</link>
		<dc:creator>MRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 16:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/fVTNFpQrkvSYvC2mTA41ZukV5bj9SmrRDT8NCs52Flk?feat=embedwebsite&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;From &lt;a href=&quot;https://picasaweb.google.com/113620244319659231971/IsChemicals?authuser=0&amp;authkey=Gv1sRgCMfbx_30r6OzkgE&amp;feat=embedwebsite&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;... is chemicals&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>Comment on First Draft of a Pro-Chemistry Ad Campaign by Dave L</title>
		<link>http://blog.chembark.com/2012/05/15/first-draft-of-a-pro-chemistry-ad-campaign/#comment-19401</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 12:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul, interesting to see this discussion on why chemistry gets a bit of a bad rap in the popular consciousness.  I think it&#039;s definitely laudable to try and bring chemistry out from &#039;behind the scenes&#039; so to speak; we often refer to our profession as the &quot;central science,&quot; but more often than not that tends to mean chemistry plays a bit of a silent role in the average person&#039;s life.  And when it is more &#039;front-and-center,&#039; it&#039;s usually in a negative light: when was the last time you saw a popular news story on something chemistry-related that was positive?  And how many of those stories were told without referring to chemistry at all (for example, a story about a revolutionary new material)?  Physics has the &quot;wow&quot; factor (although how anyone other than particle physicists can get ecstatic about the hunt for the Higgs boson is beyond me), and biology the direct relevance to life, but as many have pointed out here, chemistry underpins pretty much everything.  After all, it is the science of &quot;stuff,&quot; and people like stuff!  Possibly part of the problem is that chemistry&#039;s impact and influence is so broad and in most cases relatively mundane (try to get excited about polyethylene, then try to live without it for a week).  Maybe what the field needs in addition to a branding-makeover is to aggressively publicize new breakthrough technologies (Nocera&#039;s leaf comes to mind, although again the relation to chemistry is probably minimized in popular articles on the subject).  This would be especially relevant for those that relate to things like green energy and sustainability.  Maybe instead of focusing on the mundane (levitra and plastics), we should strive to tie chemistry to big, sweeping, revolutionary, and forward-looking things like total carbon neutrality.  However, Kelly&#039;s testimonial might &quot;engage&quot; more people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul, interesting to see this discussion on why chemistry gets a bit of a bad rap in the popular consciousness.  I think it&#8217;s definitely laudable to try and bring chemistry out from &#8216;behind the scenes&#8217; so to speak; we often refer to our profession as the &#8220;central science,&#8221; but more often than not that tends to mean chemistry plays a bit of a silent role in the average person&#8217;s life.  And when it is more &#8216;front-and-center,&#8217; it&#8217;s usually in a negative light: when was the last time you saw a popular news story on something chemistry-related that was positive?  And how many of those stories were told without referring to chemistry at all (for example, a story about a revolutionary new material)?  Physics has the &#8220;wow&#8221; factor (although how anyone other than particle physicists can get ecstatic about the hunt for the Higgs boson is beyond me), and biology the direct relevance to life, but as many have pointed out here, chemistry underpins pretty much everything.  After all, it is the science of &#8220;stuff,&#8221; and people like stuff!  Possibly part of the problem is that chemistry&#8217;s impact and influence is so broad and in most cases relatively mundane (try to get excited about polyethylene, then try to live without it for a week).  Maybe what the field needs in addition to a branding-makeover is to aggressively publicize new breakthrough technologies (Nocera&#8217;s leaf comes to mind, although again the relation to chemistry is probably minimized in popular articles on the subject).  This would be especially relevant for those that relate to things like green energy and sustainability.  Maybe instead of focusing on the mundane (levitra and plastics), we should strive to tie chemistry to big, sweeping, revolutionary, and forward-looking things like total carbon neutrality.  However, Kelly&#8217;s testimonial might &#8220;engage&#8221; more people!</p>
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