Comments on: ACS to Bloggers: Shove It

By: Now Accepting Nominations for the 2012 Chemmy Awards | ChemBark

Now Accepting Nominations for the 2012 Chemmy Awards | ChemBark — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 15:56:56 +0000

[...] and the Spacedinos duplication scandal ACS Publications vs. Jenica Rogers and other Librarians The settlement of ACS v. Leadscope Arsenic Death [...]

By: The right to create our own digital footprints? | Information Wants To Be Free

Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:01:45 +0000

[...] with Jenica Rogers on the whole librarians vs. American Chemical Society thing, I do think that calling someone a bitch on FriendFeed is putting something in writing (doesn’t make her arguments against ACS any less credible though). Because even when you [...]

By: Paul

Paul — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:12:06 +0000

Hi Cliff, This discussion thread might be of interest to you.

By: Clifford Rossiter

Clifford Rossiter — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:46:28 +0000

Thank you for your wonderful posts about the struggles SUNY Potsdam is having with the ACS. I would like to add the following conversation I posted on IonicViper website, a site for inorganic chemist.

Sincerely,

Cliff

Dr. Clifford S. Rossiter
Department of Chemistry
SUNY Potsdam
Potsdam, NY 13676

https://www.ionicviper.org/forum/call-action-acs-journal-prices#comment-1987
Dear Fellow Vipers,

The issue of ACS journal pricing and SUNY Potsdam has caused a flurry of activity in the academic world. Discussions have included articles in The Scientist, Confessions of a Science Librarian, ChemBark, CENBlog Behind the Woodshed, Times Higher Education, Inside HigherEd and Library Journal.

As this forum is sponsered by the ACS Division of Inorganic Chemistry and the ACS is currently having National Elections, I would be curious to hear Dr. Thomas J. Barton and Dr. Luis A Echegoyen’s opinion on the matter of journal pricing and what, if any, reforms they would propose to help address the cost of journal publications. Specifically, comments should be made available on a public forum. This posting will be forwarded to the candidates for comment.

Sincerely,

Cliff

By: Chemical Society Pricing Has Librarians Up In Arms

Chemical Society Pricing Has Librarians Up In Arms — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:46:33 +0000

[...] Regardless of whether the Society engages with Rogers personally, in a blog hosted by Scientific American, fellow SUNY librarian Bonnie Swoger called on the ACS to “open a dialog on what a reasonable pricing model would include,” a call seconded by chemist Paul Bracher. [...]

By: 2012 Nobel Prize in Chemistry | ScienceGeist

2012 Nobel Prize in Chemistry | ScienceGeist — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:20:24 +0000

[...] We were having a discussion over whether bloggers are journalists. (Our argument was spurred by a quote covered in Paul’s blog.) My wife, who is a trained communications specialists, took the side [...]

By: Behind the Wood Shed with the ACS | Terra Sigillata

Behind the Wood Shed with the ACS | Terra Sigillata — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:09:38 +0000

[...] “ACS to Bloggers: Shove It,” by C&EN advisory board member, Chembark; [...]

By: Jenica Vs. The ACS Volcano « Agnostic, Maybe

Jenica Vs. The ACS Volcano « Agnostic, Maybe — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:16:49 +0000

[...] I’d recommend reading posts on the subject by Walt Crawford, Iris Jastram, Jacob Berg, and Chembark as well as Jenica’s followup [...]

By: erich

erich — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:00:33 +0000

Can’t wait to read blog posts about how Glenn Ruskin used obscenities in in semi-public forums inreference to librarians.

By: Jennifer Howard

Jennifer Howard — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:25:35 +0000

FYI, re the ACS statement, here’s the full relevant paragraph from my CHE story. It begins with a paraphrase of that sentence bolded above:

“A spokesman for the American Chemical Society said that the group would not offer a response to Ms. Rogers’s blog post or the conversation that’s sprung up around it. ‘We find little constructive dialogue can be had on blogs and other listservs where logic, balance, and common courtesy are not practiced and observed,’ Glenn S. Ruskin, the group’s director of public affairs, said in an e-mail message. ‘As a matter of practice, ACS finds that direct engagement via telephone or face-to-face with individuals expressing concern over pricing or other related matters is the most productive means to finding common ground and resolution.’”